{"id":4334,"date":"2015-08-05T08:00:46","date_gmt":"2015-08-05T15:00:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.sylumclan.com\/sylumblog\/?p=4334"},"modified":"2015-07-29T18:48:46","modified_gmt":"2015-07-30T01:48:46","slug":"sylum-essay-series-sylum-characters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sylumclan.com\/sylumblog\/sylum-essay-series-sylum-characters\/","title":{"rendered":"Sylum Essay Series: Sylum Characters"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Sylum Essay Series: Sylum Characters<\/h2>\n

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This particular essay will combine a few of the questions that asked about adding characters or shows. \u00a0 We briefly touched base on some of our reasons on a previous Sylum Q&A, but figured it would be best to go into more detail.<\/p>\n

Not every show will go into Sylum. Yeah I know it doesn’t seem like it, but there are a few shows that will always remain off limits. \u00a0 There are many reasons why.<\/p>\n

* It could be that the characters are so bad that even Sylum can’t redeem them.<\/p>\n

* There could be issues with the showrunner\/creator of the show that makes us run away screaming as fast as possible.<\/p>\n

* It could be the actor\/actress is on our ‘Oh Hell No List’.<\/p>\n

* None of us watched the show so we have no idea how to even build a storyline or background\u00a0for the characters involved.<\/p>\n

* The storyline\/concept doesn’t fit within Sylum parameters.<\/p>\n

* Characters and\/or story slams against established Sylum storyline or characters.<\/p>\n

* Sometimes it comes down to we created Sylum and no I’m not putting that show in it.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> In Alias tv show the hunt for Rambaldi\u2019s artifacts is one of it\u2019s main plots, with Rambaldi considered a renaissance man an inventor ahead of his time, would any of his work be of interest to Galileo?\u00a0Among Rambaldis work are an equation for zero point energy, a neutron bomb that delivered micropulses that disintegrates organic matter but left inorganic matter unharmed, and a key to immortality.<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong>\u00a0Alias in one of these shows that fall into the category of none of us watched it. \u00a0I have no way to build any story for the characters in or around the show. \u00a0 I have no idea who Rambaldi is, so trying to add him to an established storyline like Galileo would be impossible.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Dollhouse tv show with Eliza Dushku, would the technology of wiping memories and implanting new memories be of interest to Crimson Moon? The whole illegal operations would be right in their wheelhouse.<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong>\u00a0Dollhouse falls into two categories.<\/p>\n

First off the concept of the show, wouldn’t work within Sylum. \u00a0As said we try to have a good reason and, even with sci-fi elements, plausibility. \u00a0 Basically Crimson Moon are assholes and experiment on variety of people, vampires, and things – but the technology for something like this – much like Nolan’s idea in Inception – is a few steps too far.<\/p>\n

Second. Well let me just admit it. \u00a0I’m not a Joss Whedon fan. \u00a0Never have been, never will be. \u00a0The only character I actually liked was Angel, hence his position in Sanctuary. The Buffy and Firefly characters were introduced early in Sylum. \u00a0 Even with the re-writes they were too established for me to just get rid of completely. \u00a0 Hence histories and backgrounds have been changed and storylines updated. \u00a0 The likely hood there will be any other Whedon characters is non-existent.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Outlander tv show based on a book series, has beautiful shots from Scotland, a love story in the past involving a time travelling nurse from WWII, and a cruel villain in the past, which descendant is the woman\u2019s husband in present time. Convoluted? Probably as much as the Back to the Future series. Would Galileo be interested in Claire journey in time?<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> \u00a0This particular idea goes against ideas and stories we already established. \u00a0 When we put in Back to the Future series it was for a reason and the established storyline has ramifications that will be seen throughout the series. \u00a0 Any elements that attach itself to a Time Travel idea have to be well thought and planned out. \u00a0 Adding too many elements makes it more convoluted than it already\u00a0is.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> We know that we have our racing group in the clans, that make clan leaders want to tear their hair out, will they have more additions to it like Aaron Paul from Need for Speed?<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> This is a good example of characters that are so bad they can’t be saved for Sylum. \u00a0Just to take him to be a ‘racer’ is not enough to establish him in any Clan. \u00a0 We can also use this movie to showcase how we do get around the ‘OMG what was that and why Dominic why were you in it?’ Those characters or movies that can’t be redeemed or put into Sylum, but have\u00a0an\u00a0actor we’ve\u00a0established\u00a0– we can use the name as a pseudonym for the established character.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Keanu Reeves was in an awesome kickass movie John Wick last fall reminding me of Neo, would this two characters be connected in a vampire world?<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Nick Buckhardt from Grimm tv show, descents from a line of hunters how perfect is he to be a character for the clans?<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> \u00a0I saw this awesome sci fi movie in the summer Edge of Tomorrow, Emily Blunt as Sergeant Rita Vrataski was kickass, you think those exoskeletons and her could exist in the future of the sylum storylines, some of those are pretty far in the future?<\/p>\n

A:<\/strong> These last three questions fall into the – we haven’t seen them, but will take a look to see if the characters are viable. \u00a0 There is future storyline that we’ll need a Keanu Reeves character so it is something we’ll look into. \u00a0And we’re always looking for good woman characters.<\/p>\n

By answering these questions, we wanted to showcase how we look at suggestions and additional characters when working with Sylum. \u00a0 We are always happy to get suggestions, \u00a0sometimes it works out perfectly. \u00a0The suggestion for the TV Show Marco Polo was a good example and worked out beautifully.<\/p>\n

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In the beginning of Sylum it was all about the pretty or everyone’s\u00a0favorite fandoms. \u00a0 Now that we’re working through the wiki, establishing stronger character motivations, and re-building storyline – we had to start thinking about the characters and how they\u00a0fit into the overall universe.<\/p>\n

The questions answered showcased some of the reasons why we take or don’t take particular characters or shows. \u00a0There are a few more reasons that are much more complicated.<\/p>\n

You’re probably asking what is the ‘Oh Hell No List’.<\/p>\n

The list is a group of actors\/actress that have made their political views clear enough that if they were to discover Sylum they would likely sue are asses. \u00a0We’ve listed a few names from\u00a0this list who\u00a0have impacted storylines and the wiki.<\/p>\n

* Adam Baldwin\u00a0– all roles have been\u00a0moved from the series.<\/p>\n

* Kevin Sorbo – the roles of Hercules and Iolaus have been re-cast.<\/p>\n

* Mel Gibson – Maximilian was re-cast, other roles were removed.<\/p>\n

* Charlton Heston – who would rise from the dead to sue – Michelangelo and Ben Hur were re-cast.<\/p>\n

* Shia LeBeouf – I’m not actually sure what the fuck happened there but in good conscious we had to remove him. \u00a0So yes the role of Sam Witwicky has been re-cast.<\/p>\n

* Jeff Davis – Now Teen Wolf is a show that wouldn’t have made it into Sylum for many many reasons. \u00a0The simplest one is just no. \u00a0Second, storyline doesn’t fit within parameters. Third, the showrunner would hunt us down. \u00a0 Which indicates that if he does any other shows – they won’t be making it into Sylum either.<\/p>\n

And yes we have some names on the list that are\u00a0for personal reasons. \u00a0Benedict Cumberbatch – just don’t even ask. \u00a0Ever. \u00a0It’s not going to happen. \u00a0And don’t try to convince me other wise. \u00a0Seriously guys not happening.<\/p>\n

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All these parameters\u00a0we’ve showcased also work on the Historical Characters through out Sylum. \u00a0 Our #1 Rule is never take any ‘Real Person’ who is still alive. \u00a0Hence as much as there’s an interesting story for Tony Mendez – that isn’t happening.<\/p>\n

But you have the Crab Fishing guys.<\/p>\n

Yes and No.<\/p>\n

We based the characters off of them, but I’m pretty sure Sig isn’t a 1800 year old Nordic Fisherman. \u00a0And yes we’ve used their images, but these guys are in the limelight of ‘hollywood’ not a private citizen who’s life depends on not having his image all over the internet.<\/p>\n

Once we established the\u00a0character we want is\u00a0dead *smirks* we have to make\u00a0that there isn’t family around that can hunt us down. \u00a0 Hence recently we had to remove William Wilberforce – we won’t even mention how many kids he had, and a few of them are psychotic when it comes to the family name. \u00a0 Also, there have been a few characters we decided against, mainly for very similar\u00a0reasons.<\/p>\n

The last thing we have to do is find\u00a0images to suit them. \u00a0We look at the images, paintings, busts or hopefully some form of description of who they are. \u00a0Seriously every person in Ancient Greece has a beard! \u00a0We then search for actors\/models of the ethnicity of the character. \u00a0We try hard not to ‘white wash’ the characters. \u00a0There are times we have no choice and take who\u00a0we can use or if they are already played by a particular actor. \u00a0But we work hard to keep the ethnicity of the historical figure to match the image we’ll be using. \u00a0And of course this still lines up with our ‘Oh Hell No List’.<\/p>\n

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So as you can see a lot of work goes into picking characters for Sylum. \u00a0Let alone where they’ll end up at! \u00a0Never feel shy about asking about a certain character or show, you might be surprised and find out a) we already have them b) it may be usable. \u00a0But also be prepared for the no that’s not going to work.<\/p>\n

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